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| ===== Overview ===== | ===== Overview ===== |
| This song-poem originates from the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seneca_people|Seneca tribe]] and is chanted to begin their tribe's ceremonial season of rebirth called I'dos. The poem was transcribed by Jerome Rothenberg and was written and formatted in a way to exemplify the dynamic and rhythmic nature that the chanted oral piece provides. | This song-poem originates from the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seneca_people|Seneca tribe]] and is chanted to begin their tribe's ceremonial season of rebirth called I'dos. The poem was transcribed by Jerome Rothenberg and was written and formatted in a way that exemplifies the dynamic and rhythmic nature that the chanted oral piece provides. |
| ===== Context ===== | ===== Context ===== |
| This song-poem originates from the oral chants of the Senecan tribe. Traditionally, this was a specific song sung by ceremonial leaders called hajaswas. Hajaswas sang these chants to begin the cycle of renewal the tribe called "I'dos" or "Onöndowa’ga:’ Gawë:nö׳" in the [[https://senecalanguage.com/|Senecan language]]. Onöndowa’ga:’ Gawë:nö׳ is translated to "Language of the People of the Great Hills." I'dos is also translated to "Shaking the Pumpkin" and "The Society of the Mystic Animals." Often Senecan poetry does not make use of words at all, but rhythmic chanting sounds that are not found in Seneca language. | The Senecan tribe is located in New York and has historically lived South of Lake Ontario. |
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| | Traditionally, this was song was sung by ceremonial leaders called hajaswas. Hajaswas sang these chants to begin the cycle of renewal the tribe called "I'dos" or "Onöndowa’ga:’ Gawë:nö׳" in the [[https://senecalanguage.com/|Senecan language]]. Onöndowa’ga:’ Gawë:nö׳ is translated to "Language of the People of the Great Hills." I'dos is also translated to "Shaking the Pumpkin" and "The Society of the Mystic Animals." |
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| | Often Senecan poetry does not make use of words at all and instead makes use of rhythmic sounds not defined in the Seneca language. Many of this song's audible elements are included for effect and to add to the flow of the song throughout the oral performance. |
| ===== Commentary ===== | ===== Commentary ===== |
| Much of the piece uses some of the sounds in the chant that are not words at all but are used for effect to create an audible flow and are used as a refrain to frame the rest of the song. Rothenberg also transcribed the song-poem with some notes that act somewhat like directions, which include information about the nature of the chanting and some notes about the speed at which the chant was performed at different intervals. Specifically, there is a note about the tempo of the last three 'songs' (which could be perceived as stanzas of a single song) increasing noticeably during the oral performance. | Much of this piece uses sounds that are not words at all but are used for effect to create an audible flow. These sounds are used as a refrain to frame the rest of the song. Rothenberg also transcribed the song-poem with some notes that act somewhat like directions, which include information about the nature of the chanting and some notes about the speed at which the chant was performed. Specifically, there is a note about the tempo of the last three 'songs' (which could be perceived as stanzas of a single song) increasing noticeably during the oral performance. |
| ===== Bibliography ===== | ===== Bibliography ===== |
| “A Conversational Seneca Language Page.” Seneca Language, 26 Aug. 2021, https://senecalanguage.com/. | “A Conversational Seneca Language Page.” Seneca Language, 26 Aug. 2021, https://senecalanguage.com/. |
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| “Seneca People.” Wikipedia, Wikimedia Foundation, 18 Feb. 2022, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seneca_people. | “Seneca People.” Wikipedia, Wikimedia Foundation, 18 Feb. 2022, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seneca_people. |
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