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- ====== David Antin ======+====== Talking to Discover by David Antin ======
  
-David Antin wore many hats, including poet, scholar, and educator. Antin could be described as being an in-the-moment poet. He focused on spontaneity and context-based poetic creations. Antin’s signature talk poems were created through improvisation. Any written records of this poetry were transcribed from the original oral format.  “An experimentally driven poet, Antin used found text, or juxtapositions of different kinds of texts, to create new linguistic and philosophical meanings in his early published work” (David). Among his multitude of works, Antin published two books of talk poetry, //Talking// (Kulchur Foundation, 1972) and //Talking at the Boundaries// (New Directions, 1976). +David Antin wore many hats, including poet, scholar, and educator. Antin could be described as being an in-the-moment poet. He focused on spontaneity and context-based poetic creations. Antin’s signature talk poems were created through improvisation. Any written records of this poetry were transcribed from the original oral format.  “An experimentally driven poet, Antin used found text, or juxtapositions of different kinds of texts, to create new linguistic and philosophical meanings in his early published work” (David). Among his multitude of works, Antin published two books of talk poetry, //Talking// ((Kulchur Foundation, 1972)) and //Talking at the Boundaries// ((New Directions, 1976)). 
  
 Antin ventured outside of traditionally published poetic works, with creations such as his Sky Poems, written in skywriting through the use of planes. “Antin employed a team of pilots who had developed a skywriting technique called ‘sky typing’ which involved flying in formation & releasing a series of oil-based ‘puffs’ according to a preprogrammed code to produce dot matrix-style text in the sky.” This creative art was performed live for the public.  Antin ventured outside of traditionally published poetic works, with creations such as his Sky Poems, written in skywriting through the use of planes. “Antin employed a team of pilots who had developed a skywriting technique called ‘sky typing’ which involved flying in formation & releasing a series of oil-based ‘puffs’ according to a preprogrammed code to produce dot matrix-style text in the sky.” This creative art was performed live for the public. 
  
-The first sky poem, (featured on page 541 of //The Serpent and the Fire// anthology) used intentional spacing to add multiplicity of meaning:+The first sky poem, ((featured on page 541 of //The Serpent and the Fire// anthology)) used intentional spacing to add multiplicity of meaning:
  
 IF WE     GET IT    TOGETHER IF WE     GET IT    TOGETHER
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 ====== "Talking to Discover" ====== ====== "Talking to Discover" ======
  
-This oral poetic piece “was originally spoken at the First International Symposium on Ethnopoetics (Center for Twentieth Century Studies, Milwaukee, April 1975).” It takes place as a conversational exchange between David Antin and fellow participants Nathaniel Tarn, Richard Schedner, William Spanos, and Gary Synder.+This oral poetic piece “was originally spoken at the First International Symposium on Ethnopoetics ((Center for Twentieth Century Studies, Milwaukee, April 1975)).” It takes place as a conversational exchange between David Antin and fellow participants Nathaniel Tarn, Richard Schedner, William Spanos, and Gary Synder.
  
 In the beginning of the piece, Antin equates Ethnopoetics with Human Poetics. Antin advocates for a poetry of open form. He discusses the concept of talking to discover, which he proposes is universal across cultures. Poetry, for Antin, should be in the act of discovering, more specifically discovering self. This occurs in observing and adapting through discourse. To this point, he states, “In all language acts there is always an other” (459).  In the beginning of the piece, Antin equates Ethnopoetics with Human Poetics. Antin advocates for a poetry of open form. He discusses the concept of talking to discover, which he proposes is universal across cultures. Poetry, for Antin, should be in the act of discovering, more specifically discovering self. This occurs in observing and adapting through discourse. To this point, he states, “In all language acts there is always an other” (459). 
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 David Antin’s approach to poetry challenges the traditional idea that poems must be written, revised, and perfected. Instead, he saw poetry as something that happens in the moment of speaking. Through his talk pieces, Antin showed that meaning can emerge while we speak, not just after we carefully plan what to say. He believed that poetry could unfold spontaneously through speech. In his talk pieces, Antin demonstrated that meaning can arise during the act of speaking, rather than from pre-planned words. This idea is central to what he called talking to discover. For Antin, poetry wasn't about presenting a finished idea. It was about finding that idea by thinking aloud. David Antin’s approach to poetry challenges the traditional idea that poems must be written, revised, and perfected. Instead, he saw poetry as something that happens in the moment of speaking. Through his talk pieces, Antin showed that meaning can emerge while we speak, not just after we carefully plan what to say. He believed that poetry could unfold spontaneously through speech. In his talk pieces, Antin demonstrated that meaning can arise during the act of speaking, rather than from pre-planned words. This idea is central to what he called talking to discover. For Antin, poetry wasn't about presenting a finished idea. It was about finding that idea by thinking aloud.
  
-In an interview with Charles Bernstein, Antin explained: “I discovered that when I stood up in front of people and just began to talk, the thinking would begin to shape itself in real time. I wasn’t delivering a poem—I was finding it” You can see the full video here. This way of creating poetry is more like a conversation than a performance. It invites the audience into the poet’s thought process, making each talk piece unique and unrepeatable.​+In an interview with Charles Bernstein, Antin explained: “I discovered that when I stood up in front of people and just began to talk, the thinking would begin to shape itself in real time. I wasn’t delivering a poem—I was finding it” You can watch the full video [[https://writing.upenn.edu/pennsound/x/Antin.php|here.]]. This way of creating poetry is more like a conversation than a performance. It invites the audience into the poet’s thought process, making each talk piece unique and unrepeatable.​
  
 By treating speech as a tool for discovery, Antin redefined what poetry could be. He made it more open, personal, and alive—closer to real human experience. His work encourages us to see thinking, speaking, and writing as connected acts of exploration. By treating speech as a tool for discovery, Antin redefined what poetry could be. He made it more open, personal, and alive—closer to real human experience. His work encourages us to see thinking, speaking, and writing as connected acts of exploration.
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 Antin, David, and Charles Bernstein. A Conversation with David Antin. Granary Books, 2002.​ Antin, David, and Charles Bernstein. A Conversation with David Antin. Granary Books, 2002.​
  
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 +"David Antin." Poetry Foundation, https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/david-antin. 
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