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| ====== from Catallus, translated by Zukofsky ====== | |
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| **//The Serpent and the Fire// (pp. 577-578)** \\ | //The Serpent and the Fire// (pp. 577-578) \\ |
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| | ====== Catallus, translated by Zukofsky ====== |
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| The first three lines are taken from //Catallus 8// of a Latin poem of 19 lines, written by the Roman poet Gaius Valerius Catallus. It is widely recognized for its initial notes ([[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incipit|incipit]]) and "limping iambs" or [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choliamb|Choliambic verse]]. It is interesting to compare the Zukofskys' homophonic translation from another translation taken from this [[https://www.vroma.org/vromans/hwalker/VRomaCatullus/008.html|source]] while noting the resonance of the Latin words with their version. | The first three lines are taken from //Catallus 8// of a Latin poem of 19 lines, written by the Roman poet Gaius Valerius Catallus. It is widely recognized for its initial notes ([[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incipit|incipit]]) and "limping iambs" or [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choliamb|Choliambic verse]]. It is interesting to compare the Zukofskys' homophonic translation from another translation taken from this [[https://www.vroma.org/vromans/hwalker/VRomaCatullus/008.html|source]] while noting the resonance of the Latin words with their version. |
| Homophonic constraint pulls out the latinate vocabulary available in the English language. Despite the apparent feature of this poetic constraint to favor the Classic tongue of Catullus, the Germanic stretching of "love you; you, too" pulls the line longer than the rest, and makes the declaration "Vale!" ring with a curt reminder of the foreign registry of Catullus verse with the experimental verse of the twentieth century. | Homophonic constraint pulls out the latinate vocabulary available in the English language. Despite the apparent feature of this poetic constraint to favor the Classic tongue of Catullus, the Germanic stretching of "love you; you, too" pulls the line longer than the rest, and makes the declaration "Vale!" ring with a curt reminder of the foreign registry of Catullus verse with the experimental verse of the twentieth century. |
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| The plain Reading of the poem lets the reader know that the dialect registers of Scottish G. S. Davies (from 1912), a more accessible accent to mimic or mock or play with in the phonic repository of a contemporary American English reader. The parallel of which a classics scholars might have out of reach in the word of linguaphobic speakers of English without a memory—alas, what I mean to write here is that the erudite flex of writing the homophonic translation from Latin to English might be lost, or at least raises questions on both the level of intellectual appreciation, aesthetic engagement, and legibility of the poem to a new readership. | The plain reading of the poem lets the reader know that the dialect registers of Scottish G. S. Davies (from 1912), a more accessible accent to mimic or mock or play with in the phonic repository of a contemporary American English reader. The parallel of which a classics scholars might have out of reach in the word of linguaphobic speakers of English without a memory—alas, what I mean to write here is that the erudite flex of writing the homophonic translation from Latin to English might be lost, or at least raises questions on both the level of intellectual appreciation, aesthetic engagement, and legibility of the poem to a new readership. |
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| ===== Some Notes on Translation ===== | ===== Some Notes on Translation ===== |
| classique : le Catullus des Zukofsky, Revue Lisa, vol. 7, no. 2, 2009, pp. 117-129, https://doi.org/10.4000/lisa.312 | classique : le Catullus des Zukofsky, Revue Lisa, vol. 7, no. 2, 2009, pp. 117-129, https://doi.org/10.4000/lisa.312 |
| Link : https://journals.openedition.org/lisa//312?lang=en | Link : https://journals.openedition.org/lisa//312?lang=en |
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| | Stallings, A.E.. "Miss her, Catallus?." //Poetry Foundation//. 20 Sept. 2007, https://www.poetryfoundation.org/blog/uncategorized/50114/miss-her-catullus. |
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